i have thick wavy hair. which is nice. what isn't nice is trying to style my hair and having to use 230 bobby pins. i usually bend half of them and the other half fall out of my hair leaving a trail of bobby pins that lead to me. i heard about the goody spin pin a while back somewhere ( commercial, blog, friend... not sure) i found some at target and got stylin. these weird looking little curly q's take the place of 20 pins each. they are awesome and easy to use. i love the messy bun look and when i used this is took all of 2 minutes to do.